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Minutes of the Teleconference Meeting of the DOE Hydrogen
Codes and Standards Coordinating Committee (HC&SCC)
Russell Hewett, NREL
MEETING DATE: June 1, 2005
TIME: 1:00 - 2:30 PM (MST)
1.0 PARTICIPANTS
The
list of participants in the teleconference meeting is available
here (211Kb PDF).
2.0 REVIEW OF ANTI-TRUST POLICY
USFCC Codes and Standards Working Group meetings begin
with the reminder to review and follow the anti-trust guidelines
at the following web sites:
http://www.usfcc.com/members/ANTITRUST_GUIDELINES_REV.pdf
and
http://www.usfcc.com/members/Memo_on_Antitrust_Guidelines.pdf
3.0 CORRECTIONS TO MINUTES OF MARCH/APRIL MEETING
No corrections to the Minutes of the May meeting were
offered.
4.0 OPPORTUNITY FOR DOE/HQ SUBPROGRAM MANAGER TO
REPORT ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT DOE/HQ
Pat Davis (DOE/HQ Technology Development Manager for Safety,
Codes and Standards) reported that the Program Review for
the Hydrogen, Fuel Cell and Infrastructure Technologies Program
went very well - with over 900 attendees. The Review was held
in Washington, DC during the period May 23 - 27. Pat reported
also that the Safety, Codes and Standards session was well
attended.
He further reported that Sandia/Livermore has recently begun
to publish reports from their materials R&D documenting
the compatibility of various materials with hydrogen. The
reports are chapters in a materials guide entitled Technical
Reference for Hydrogen Compatibility of Materials. The guide
is intended to be a resource for developing codes and standards
relating to hydrogen vehicles, fueling stations, etc.
The Technical Reference is accessible at the following web
site:
http://www.ca.sandia.gov/matlsTechRef
5.0 SCHEDULE OF UPCOMING EVENTS
Kelvin Hecht gave a report covering: (1) codes and standards
meetings held in May; (2) codes and standards meeting scheduled
for June; and (3) standards open for public comments. His
report is available here (89Kb PDF).
Andrei Tchouvelev briefed the Committee on the First International
Conference on Hydrogen Safety that will be held in Pisa, Italy
during the period September 8 - 10, 2005.
Information regarding the Conference can be found at the following
web site:
http://conference.ing.unipi.it/ichs
According to the web site, the sessions will be as follows:
1st Session: Hydrogen Hazard and Risk
1.1: Hydrogen release, mixing, and distribution
1.2 : Ignition properties, thermal, pressure, and missile
effects from H2 fires and H2-air explosions
1.3: Mitigation techniques
1.4: Risk evaluation, both specific and in comparison with
today's fossil fuels
2nd Session: Hydrogen Production and Handling
2.1: Production
2.2: Storage
2.3: Transport and distribution - refueling stations
3rd Session: Hydrogen Applications
3.1: Vehicles powered with H2
3.2: Tunnels, parking and garages
3.3: Portable and stationary H2 applications
4th Session: Standardization and Legal Requirements
4.1: Standards
4.2: Regulations
Within the 4th Session, Pat Davis will chair the subsession
on "Standards." Andrei reported that the conference
will feature 58 papers.
John Koehr (ASME) briefed the Committee on the Materials
and Components for the Hydrogen Economy Codes and Standards
Workshop that will be held August 29 - 30, 2005 in Augusta,
GA.The workshop will be conducted jointly by ASME and the
DOE Savannah River National Laboratory. While the Workshop
will be limited to 65 participants, Committee members were
invited to participate. The
announcement regarding the workshop is available here
(57Kb PDF).
6.0 CODES AND STANDARDS DOCUMENTS OPEN FOR "COMMENTS"
Kelvin Hecht's report on documents open for comments are
listed in the Attachment in Section 5.0
above.
7.0 DISCUSSION OF FORMAT/GENERIC AGENDA FOR
CONDUCTING MONTHLY MEETINGS OF THE COMMITTEE
One of the action items from the May meeting was for Russ
Hewett to generate a "Generic" agenda that would
be used to conduct the monthly teleconference meetings. The
agenda was to be constructed using the feedback from the discussion
at the May meeting regarding what participants wanted the
meetings to be and what they wanted to get out of them. The
draft agenda is available here (106Kb PDF).
The participants discussed the draft and proposed that it
be used for the next few meetings to see if it will work as
desired. However, the following changes were offered:
(1) For the item "News (of Significance - if any)
from the CDOs and SDOs relating to Hydrogen and/or Fuel Cells",
IEEE should be added to the list for making reports
(2) For the item "What's Going on at Other Organizations
of Interest to the Coordinating Committee", the following
additional organizations should be given the opportunity to
report, as appropriate:
- ANSI (as specific issues arise, such as upcoming votes,
and codes
and standards training courses)
- Next Energy (Detroit, MI)
In addition, with respect to "News of Significance
from the CDOs and SDOs", it was agreed that the ideal
approach would be for the CDOs and SDOs to give brief, summary
oral reports and provide a write-up for inclusion in the Minutes.
An unresolved issue is establishing the order for oral reporting
by the CDOs and SDOs. The concept is for one group (of six?)
to be on the agenda automatically for an oral report
one month and the second group the next month - on an alternating
basis. Written reports for inclusion in the Minutes would
be welcome every month.
Russ Hewett will use the feedback to generate a revised Generic
Agenda.
8.0 REVISED DRAFT OF THE DRAFT MISSION STATEMENT
FOR THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE
Another action item from the May meeting was for the Task
Force established to develop a draft Mission Statement for
the Coordinating Committee to generate a revised rough draft
based on feedback from the membership in reviewing the first
draft. Susan Townsend (chairperson of the NHA Codes and Standards
Committee) is in the process of generating the new draft.
It will be disseminated to the membership as soon as it is
available.
For reference, the
initial rough draft is available here (81Kb PDF).
9.0 DISCUSSION OF THE NFPA PROPOSAL TO CONSOLIDATE
THE HYDROGEN SAFETY REQUIREMENTS INTO A SINGLE
DOCUMENT
Carl Rivkin reported that the NFPA Standards Council has
received a proposal to consolidate all of the hydrogen safety
requirements in its various codes and standards documents
into a single document. The objectives in doing this would
be to:
o Increase ease of use
o Facilitate harmonization of the safety requirements
In addition, since the requirements in codes and standards
documents are subject to revision and since new requirements
will undoubtedly arise, consolidation would facilitate the
process for making changes to existing requirements and formulating
new ones as the hydrogen and fuel cell technologies evolve
and as operating experience is gained.
NFPA documents articulating hydrogen safety requirements include
NFPA 52, NFPA 55, NFPA 853, NFPA 30A, and NFPA 70.
Karen Hall reported that NHA took a poll of its membership
regarding the issue and that there is strong interest in consolidation,
if it results in addressing conflicting requirements in some
of the documents. However, in the poll, there was concern
that hydrogen might be "singled out," as opposed
to being considered as another energy source.
During the meeting, there was "pro" and "con"
discussion regarding the advantages and disadvantages of consolidation.
Carl invited meeting participants to give their feedback directly
to the Standards Council.
The decision to do the consolidation will be made by the Standards
Council using input from the NFPA technical committees and
other interested parties. Carl suspects that the decision
might be made at the Standards Council's meeting in July.
10.0 NEW WORK ITEM PROPOSAL FOR ISO/TC197 SUBMITTED
BY JAPAN: HYDROGEN DETECTORS
Japan has submitted a New Work Item Proposal to ISO/TC
197 entitled Hydrogen Detectors (ISO/TC 197 N310).
The participants discussed the proposal in general and from
the perspective of the interests of the United States. The
issue was raised as to whether or not a sufficient foundation
has been laid for the New Work Proposal. Then too, the rhetorical
question was raised as to whether or not UL and other standards
are sufficient to address the concerns in the proposal, and
if they do not, could they be revised to address the concerns.
The proposal will be addressed at the US TAG Teams meetings
scheduled for July 18 and 19 at SAE in Troy, MI. An action
for the US TAG Teams will be to have US experts examine the
proposal to give them input as part of their efforts to make
the decision to support or not support the proposal.
11.0 NIST DRAFT HYDROGEN GAS METERS CODE
Juana Williams of the National Institute of Standards
and Technology (NIST) gave a briefing on the Draft Hydrogen
Gas Meter Code developed by the NIST Weights and Measures
Division (WMD). They generated the Draft for use as the basis
for a standard to be adopted by US Weights and Measures jurisdictions
for regulating hydrogen refueling equipment at commercial
service stations and for fleet operations.
The Draft
is available here (281Kb PDF).
In February 2005, WMD disseminated the Draft for review to
all potential stakeholders, asking for their input by March
28th. However, the response back was sparse. Since WMD wants
to make sure that all stakeholders have the opportunity to
comment on the Draft, they have extended the deadline to July
18, 2005.
WMD had projected September 2005 as the timeframe for convening
a working group to review the Draft and begin the process
that would lead to development of a hydrogen refueling equipment
standard. However, because of lack of funding, the schedule
will slip, probably into FY06. In spite of this, WMD plans
to continue gathering input on the technical content via written
correspondence and email.
Juana invited meeting participants to review the Draft and
submit comments. Also, participants were invited to serve
on the working group when it is established.
12.0 PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE HYDROGEN AND FUEL
CELLS CODES AND STANDARDS MATRIX AND DATABASE
Kelvin Hecht has implemented an "upgrade" to
the Hydrogen and Fuel Cells Codes and Standards Matrix and
Database that is designed to improve its user-friendliness.
This is a "Quick Reference" feature. The feature
permits a user to get quickly to the database of codes and
standards for the specific subject of interest (e.g., fuel
cells for stationary applications, etc).
The web site for the Matrix and Database is:
www.fuelcellstandards.com
Clicking on the "Quick Reference" line provides
access to the new feature.
In addition, Kelvin generated a table that articulates the
time cycles that the various CDOs and SDOs use for revising
their codes and standards documents. It
is available here (10Kb Excel file).
12.0 REPORTS FROM CDOS AND SDOS
12.1 Society of Automotive Engineering (SAE)
Ron Sims provided a written reported on May 2005 SAE standards
activities as follows:
1. J2616 - Performance Testing of Fuel Processors is awaiting
publication within SAE.
J2617 - Performance Testing of Fuel Cell Stacks has just finished
its balloting, and with four "disapprove" votes,
it will have to return to the WG in order to address the respective
issues.
J1766 - FCV Crashworthiness - Electrical Isolation has just
been published.
J2572 - Hydrogen FCV Fuel Economy Measurement has been further
refined by its WG to include hybridized power train FCVs and
is now awaiting a summer ballot.
2. J2719, SAE Technical Information Report: Hydrogen Compositional
Guideline will be brought to the next SAE FCSC Meeting on
July 21st for committee approval for publication.
3. J2600 - Vehicle Refueling Coupling Device (published 2003)
is presently being harmonized by the Interface WG to ISO 17268.
4. J2601 - Refueling Interface Communication Protocol. Approval
has been given by SAE for the Interface WG to resume its drafting
of this document following an hiatus due to a possible patent
conflict.
12.2 NFPA
Carl Rivkin reported on upcoming NFPA activities.
The NFPA World Safety Conference & Exposition will be
held as follows:
o DATES: June 6 - 10, 2005
o CITY: Las Vegas, NV
o SITE: Mandalay Bay Resort and Convention Center
The Conference will feature a Hydrogen Safety Symposium on
Monday and Tuesday, June 6 - 7.
In addition, during the Conference, Carl will convene a meeting
of NFPA's Hydrogen Coordinating Group as follows:
o DATE: June 6 (Monday)
o TIME: 3:30 - 5:30 pm
o LOCATION: Mandalay Bay South Convention Center, Conference
Room Palm G
In addition, during the Conference (June 8 - 10), the proposed
changes to the NFPA codes and standards will be brought to
the membership for voting. Of particular interest, with respect
to hydrogen, is voting on the revised NFPA 52 (Compressed
Gas Vehicular Fuel Systems Code).
13.0 OTHER MATERIALS OF INTEREST
13.1 USFCC-Convened US-Japan Meeting on Hydrogen and Fuel
Cells
Robert Wichert and Jesse Schneider reported on the USFCC-convened
"Industry - to - Industry Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Regulations
in the US and in Japan" meeting. It was held on May 25th
at the Crystal Gateway Marriott Hotel in Arlington, VA. The
agenda is available here (99Kb PDF).
Robert and Jesse reported there were very good discussions
between the US and Japanese participants. One item of especially
good news was the Japanese stating their willingness to share
information.
13.2 Presentation on "Transport of Hydrogen and First
Responder Safety"
Coordinating Committee member Bill Chernicoff (USDOT/Research
and Innovative Technologies Administration) gave a presentation
on June 7th as part of the Hydrogen Safety Symposium at the
NFPA World Safety Conference & Exposition in Las Vegas,
NV. The presentation was entitled "Transport of Hydrogen
and First Responder Safety."
JULY MEETING OF THE COORDINATING COMMITTEE
The July meeting of the Coordinating Committee is scheduled
to be an In-Person meeting that will be convened in conjunction
with the US TAG TEAM meetings scheduled for July 18 and 19
at SAE's headquarters in Troy, MI.
o MEETING DATE: July 18 (Monday)
o TIME: Morning of the 18th (specific time to be determined)
o LOCATION: Conference Room at SAE
In early July, I will disseminate the preliminary agenda for
the meeting, as well as information about meeting logistics.
Because the meeting will be in conjunction with the US TAG
TEAM meetings, the focus will be on international standards
and regulations activities.
Respectfully submitted,
Russ Hewett
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