| National Hydrogen and Fuel Cells Codes & Standards
Coordinating Committee In-Person Meeting
March 15th, 2006, at 3:00 P.M.
Pacific Standard Time in conjunction with the NHA Annual Conference in Long Beach,
CA
Karen Hall, National Hydrogen Association
MEETING MINUTES (31 March 06, with Corrections)
PARTICIPANTS Coordinating
Committee members who participated in the meeting are shown in
Attachment
II. Other persons that participated are shown in Attachment
III.
1. USFCC members were reminded to review and follow the anti-trust
guidelines:
Antitrust
Guidelines (27Kb PDF)
and
Memo
on Antitrust Guidelines (24Kb PDF)
2. Reviewed and approved the
agenda.
3. Welcome/Opening Remarks were provided by Russ Hewett
at NREL. Due to the later than usual time of this meeting, DOE Program manager
Pat Davis was unable to participate.
4. Reviewed and approved the
previous minutes.
5. Karen Hall welcomed participants on behalf
of the NHA. She reported the NHA's Annual Conference and Hydrogen Expo has been
successful so far, full of plenaries, breakout sessions, business meetings, and
networking opportunities. There were over 1100 attendees plus 400 attending public
day. The NHA is honored to host this In-Person meeting of the National Hydrogen
and Fuel Cell Codes & Standards Coordinating Committee.
6. Sondra
Ullman welcomed everyone on behalf of the USFCC.
7. Opportunity
for DOE/HQ Representative to Provide Latest Information on Activities in and FY07
Funding for the Safety, Codes and Standards Subprogram
As no HQ representative
was able to participate in the meeting, Russ Hewett announced that the due date
for responses to the DOE Codes & Standards Solicitation had been extended
until March 31.
8. Discussion Regarding the National Codes and Standards
Development Templates Jim Ohi lead the discussion regarding what changes,
if any, should be made to the National Templates, given where we are today:
o
What are the purposes of the Templates? o Target audiences for the templates
o Changes with respect to lead organizations? o What about use of the Templates
as a "Periodic Review" Tool to help the committee gauge what the
focus ought to be on?
National
Templates (143Kb PowerPoint document)
Jim
Ohi's presentation (623Kb PowerPoint document)
The Templates have served
to establish good working relationships. They may be historical documents now.
The participants discussed the value of the documents, suggested changes, and
how best to use the documents going forward.
Discussion items were as follows: The
group agreed to clarify responsibility for some elements of standard development
on the Template for Vehicle Systems and Refueling Facilities:
(1) Under
Vehicles, the "container" line item will be replaced by two separate
line items: Storage system and container -- SAE Storage system components
-- CSA
Components would include regulators, PRDs and valves. These are
areas where CSA has developed specific expertise. CSA will work with SAE so that
CSA standards that specify requirements for components expected to be safety critical
elements of the vehicle storage systems complement requirements developed by SAE
for overall systems and for containers.
(2) The group recognized the need
to add a line under Interface Fuel Specs for test methods and to show ASTM as
lead SDO for this function.
(3) The question was raised about whether leak
detection should be included in other areas of the templates, such as refueling
stations, on-board vehicles, etc. It was recognized that leak detection could
occur through many methods (not just sensors) and requirements for mobile applications
would likely differ considerably from stationary facilities.
(4) Portable
- no conclusion was reached on whether a separate SDO responsibility needed
to be identified for micro fuel cells.
(5) Discussion of NFPA 853 was informative;
no change in the current template was recommended.
Karen Hall discussed
the need to review the progress in each area as things have progressed since the
templates were agreed to. Some national efforts are complete, some dynamics have
changed and some international efforts are moving forward.
Bill Collins
suggested we send template out at least two weeks before next in-person meeting
so we can discuss and harmonize comments received at the meeting.
9.
Patrick Serfass and Carl Rivkin Reported on the First Two Meetings of the New
Hydrogen Industry Panel on Codes (HIPOC)
A Hydrogen Industry Panel
on Codes (HIPOC) has been created with the goal to extend, and to the best extent
practicable, harmonize hydrogen code and standard development activities within
the ICC and NFPA such that the proper codes and standards are in place (and stay
in place) through the conclusion of the 2007/08 ICC Code Development Cycle (2009
Editions) and the conclusion of the 2009 NFPA Codes & Standards Process. This
will coincide with the goal of the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) to have the
appropriate codes and standards in place by 2010 to be able to move to a commercialization
decision by 2015.
HIPOC has held two web-based teleconference meetings.
The first was mainly to become familiar with the web-based conference facility,
which allows the group to share documents online for discussion and modification.
The
second meeting was held to review the draft Charter (attached below) and discuss
any proposed changes for this current round of the I-Codes. Participants were
encouraged to send in any issues they may have regarding needs for revisions to
the I-codes, and issues that require harmonization between NFPA and the ICC codes.
Comments received for the March 21 call could be considered for the March 24 deadline
for ICC code modification proposals. Tom Joseph, who chaired this call, explained
that there would be additional opportunities to make changes, including the NFPA
cycle and the next ICC cycle.
Hydrogen
Industry Panel on Codes Statement of Charter, Purpose & Objectives (1,327Kb
PDF)
(10) Carl Rivkin Reported on Meeting of the NFPA Hydrogen Consulting
Group and Status of NFPA 2
Carl
Rivkin's presentation (57Kb PowerPoint document)
Carl described the
current status of the NFPA's formation of a new Technical Committee for Hydrogen.
When all hydrogen requirements are put into a single code, gaps will become more
apparent. The new TC will be responsible for filling the gaps. The existing TCs
will still have responsibility for maintaining the requirements in their code
or standard. The new TC is not just a correlating committee, as originally conceived,
but a full TC with authority to develop original text as they see fit. The NFPA
Standards Council meets next week. They will appoint a chairperson at that meeting.
The process to populate the committee with applicants can then begin. The Chairperson
will make recommendations regarding membership as input for the July meeting of
the Standards Council. The TC has to meet the distribution requirements.
Carl
expects that there will be a functioning TC by the end of the calendar year. Anyone
interested is encouraged to submit an application. Even if applicants are not
appointed to serve on the TC initially, there could be subsequent opportunities
to be appointed to fill vacancies. The Committee's new document is likely to be
issued in 2009/2010. Hydrogen requirements will remain in the original NFPA documents
as well.
(11) Kelvin Hecht's Report on IEC/TC105 Activities and Documents
in the "Comments" Stage
Kelvin's report was disseminated
by e-mail as an attachment to the agenda.
Standards meeting in March 2006:
o IEC TC105 WG#3 Stationary Fuel Cells-Safety " 3/6-7 San Francisco,
CA o SAE Fuel Cells Standards Troy, MI " 3/7-8 Working Groups
" 3/9 Fuel Cell Standards Committee o IEC TC105 WG#5 Stationary
Fuel Cells-Installation " 3/8-9 San Francisco, CA o IEC TC105
WG#7 Portable Fuel Cells-Safety " 3/9-10 San Francisco, CA Standards
meetings held in February 2006 o ISO TC197 WG#12 Hydrogen Fuel Specification
" 2/23-24 San Francisco, CA
Working Groups 3, 5 and 7 held meeting
last week in San Francisco and are making great progress. They are responding
to comments on their draft documents from international community. There will
be IEC/TC105 plenary October 19 20, 2006 in Tokyo.
Kevin chairs WG1 of
IEC/TC105 whose scope is providing definitions of terms in IEC/TC105 documents.
The working group's scope has been expanded to include development of an international
glossary of fuel cell terminology.
IEC/TC105 is asking for comments on
a proposed EUROPEAN standard for residential-sized fuel cell power plants. The
current document does not have many specific fuel cell requirements. Requirements
are needed to meet European directives and it would be of value to US fuel cell
manufacturers to review the document. Comments are due to the TAG by the end of
March.
(12) Bob Mauro's Report on ISO/TC197 Activities and Documents
in the "Comments" Stage
Bob Mauro submitted the report as
attached below. Because of a scheduled medical procedure, Bob was unable to participate
in the meeting.
Bob
Mauro's report (73Kb PDF)
Karen Hall provided a report of the inaugural
meeting of ISO TC/197 WG 13. It was published in the Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Safety
Report and is available here:
Karen
Hall's report (57Kb PDF)
Ned Stetson gave a report (via teleconferencing)
on the document ISO 16111 being drafted by ISO/TC197 WG10 (Transportable Gas Storage
Devices - Hydrogen Absorbed in Reversible Metal Hydride). The official name for
ISO 16111 is Transportable Gas Storage Devices - Hydrogen Absorbed in
Reversible Metal Hydride.
He reported that the document is being
circulated as a committee draft, on the path to becoming a Draft International
Standard. In parallel, the draft document went through the ISO/TC197 Editing Committee
for revision as a Technical Specification and is being circulated for the three-month
voting process. WG10 hopes that the voting can be completed and the document approved
as a Technical Specification by June 2006.
Jim Ohi gave an update on ISO/TC197
WG12 (Hydrogen Fuel - Product Specification) activities. His report is available
here:
Jim
Ohi's report (76Kb PDF)
Jim reported that the final draft of the Technical
Specification for hydrogen fuel quality for PEM fuel cell road vehicles has been
completed and submitted to TC197 for balloting and approval. It is available here:
Hydrogen
Fuel Product Specification (225Kb PDF)
(13) Report on Activities
of the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) and Global
Technical Regulations (GTR)
Nha Nguyen and Barbara Hennessey gave a
brief, oral report on NHTSA activities and what's going on regarding WP.29. The
United States, Germany and Japan are collaboratively developing a roadmap for
the GTR to be presented to WP.29. Plans call for the roadmap to be completed by
June for submission to WP.29 at its June meeting. Automobile OEMs have been involved
in sharing their needs in the development of the roadmap. NHTSA has also generated
a research plan. However, no research has been conducted as of yet -- funding
has only just become available. The messages to be conveyed in the roadmap are:
(i) the United States, Germany and Japan want the GTR for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles
to be at the whole vehicle level; and (ii) they want the requirements to be performance-based.
They
reported that Battelle has developed plans to do FMEA (i.e., Failure Modes and
Effects Analysis) work on vehicles with compressed hydrogen storage. Also, the
following been done:
o Development of a post-crash test procedures for
hydrogen fuel cell vehicles o Development of post-crash electrical isolation
test procedure
Destructive integrity tests on fuel systems and fuel storage
containers are to be done.
NHTSA will conduct comparative assessments of
performance based codes, standards, and regulations -- looking for gaps and inconsistencies.
Stakeholder industries are welcome to participate in meetings to develop the GTR.
NHTSA is considering accepting the invitation to co-chair the GTR Working Group.
(14)
Opportunity for CDOs and SDOs to Report on Their Activities - Focusing on Hydrogen
and/or Fuel Cell Vehicle-Level Safety Standards
ASME reported on their
activities. Their report is Attachment
A to the Minutes.
(15) Chris Moen Reported on the Teleconference
Meeting of the "Materials for the Hydrogen Economy" Coordinating Group.
His presentation is available here:
Chris
Moen's presentation (108Kb PowerPoint document)
The recommendation
was made to factor in the appropriate impurities from the SAE document into the
testing program. Some impurities in the hydrogen fuel may be as detrimental to
some materials as to the hydrogen.
(16) Reports on Other International
Activities Karen Hall reviewed a presentation from the FCTESTNET website:
http://www.jrc.nl/fctestnet/Workshop%20Ulm/ FCTESQA%20%20presentation%20Ulm%2022%20October%2004.ppt
Additional information can be found at www.jrc.nl/fctestnet.
The presentation, made by the European Commission Joint Research Centre, is also
attached here.
Fuel
Cell Testing, Safety and Quality Assurance (645Kb PowerPoint document)
Concerns
were raised that the activity may have antitrust issues, since the project is
trying to standardize test methods, which would likely result in a single design.
Although the project is aware of the test protocol developed by the USFCC, there
may be issues in using it due to copyrighting.
Time was made available
in the meeting to address whether or not codes and standards development priorities
should be re-examined. No issues were raised other than the need to assess where
the items on the National Templates stand.
(18) Opportunity for FY06
"Retrospective Self Analysis"
Time was made available in
the meeting to address the question, "Are we conducting the meetings the
right way and addressing the appropriate topics"?
Karen Hall reiterated
value in looking at progress of activities on the National Templates to be able
to focus on activities that need attention. Sondra Ullman said it would be helpful
to understand the projected timeline of the activities on the templates.
Bill
Collins offered to lift info from the USFCC appendix from its Transportation Working
Group that shows what activities are moving, using bold, color, italics, etc,
to help the group focus.
(19) Prospects for Next In-Person Meeting
While
the Coordinating Committee meets monthly - by means of teleconference meetings
- it attempts to have In-Persons meetings once each calendar quarter. Such meetings
are held in conjunction with events that Committee members are likely to be attending
anyway.
There was discussion regarding prospects for the next In-Person
meeting. Possibilities identified included: o NFPA Annual Conference in
Orlando (June) o ICC Conference and Code Development Hearings in Orlando (September)
No
decision was made. It was agreed that NREL, DOE, USFCC and NHA would have the
"action item" to develop options for the Committee to consider.
(20)
Next Monthly Teleconference Meeting
The next meeting of the Coordinating
Committee will be an April teleconference meeting:
o DATE: April 5th (First
Wednesday) o TIME: 3:00 - 4:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
The Call-In
number and the agenda will be disseminated no later than Monday, April 3rd.
ATTACHMENT
A: MARCH 2006 REPORT ON ASME ACTIVITIES
John Koehr ASME Three
Park Avenue, 20N3 New York, NY 10016-5990
The ASME B31.12 Project Team
on Hydrogen Piping and Pipelines met January 31st - February 1st in Tampa, FL.
The project team is made up of volunteer subject matter experts from industry,
government, and other standards development organizations. Draft sections of the
new B31.12 Code are under development and were reviewed during the meeting. The
project team is considering piping systems operating at pressures up to 15,000
psi and pipelines operating at pressures up to 3,000 psi. The B31.12 Code will
be divided into four parts:
1. A common section containing requirements
and data referenced by the relevant code sections below, 2. Part A: Industrial
piping systems, 3. Part B: Pipeline and distribution systems and 4. Part
C: Commercial and residential systems.
The complete draft B31.12 Code is
expected to be forwarded to the B31 Standards Committee for review by September
2006, with B31 Standards Committee ballot expected by the end of 2006.
The
ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code (BPVC) Project Team on Hydrogen Tanks met
on February 15, 2006 in Portland, Oregon as part of the quarterly Boiler Code
Week meetings. The project team is developing new rules for stationary, transportable,
and portable tanks in hydrogen service at pressures up to 15,000 psi. The scope
includes metallic and composite materials as well as pressure vessels for metal
hydride storage. Key activities include:
1. Fracture resistance requirements:
A recommended new Article KD-10 has been proposed for ASME BPVC Section VIII Division
3, providing additional toughness requirements for all-steel pressure vessels
in Hydrogen service.
2. Addition of new materials (e.g. Al alloy 6061)
not already covered in Section VIII Division 3.
3. Design Margins for Composite
Vessels: A technical report was prepared to address design margins for composite
tanks that will build upon the information developed in the Hydrogen Standardization
Interim Report for Tanks, Piping and Pipelines which was distributed to the Project
Team. The scope of this study includes stationary (e.g. storage) and transport
tanks; it does not include vehicle fuel tanks. The report provides recommended
design margins relative to short term burst pressure and interim margins for long
term stress rupture based on a fixed 15 year design life for fully wrapped and
hoop wrapped composite tanks with metal liners.
4. New Code Case for Composite
Vessels: A draft Code Case is being developed by a Task Group that covers the
fabrication of fiber reinforced thermosetting plastic pressure vessels for high-pressure
service. The Case covers three applications of pressure vessels, Class A-portable,
Class B-transportable, and Class C stationary applications.
5. Revision
to Code Case 2390: expanding the scope of metallic lined composite reinforced
circumferentially wrapped storage and transport pressure vessels to Hydrogen service
at 15,000 psi.
6. Metal Hydride Vessel Design: A draft Code Case has proposed
for Section VIII Division 1 application.
7. Improved methods for in-service
inspection.
Contact Gerry Eisenberg for more information on ASME hydrogen
codes and standards development.
ATTACHMENT
II National Hydrogen and Fuel Cells Codes and Standards Coordinating
Committee: Members that Participated in the March 2006 Meeting
| NAME | ORGANIZATION | PRESENT
AT MEETING (Yes/No) | |
Adam Gromis | California Fuel Cell Partnership | Y |
| Andrei Tchouvelev | A.
V. Tchouvelev & Associates, Inc. | Y |
| Antonio Ruiz | USDOE/Hydrogen, Fuel
Cell and Infrastructure Technologies Program | |
| Bill Chernicoff | USDOT/Research
and Innovative Technologies Administration(RITA)/Washington | Y |
| Bill Collins | UTC
Fuel Cells | Y | | Bill
Hoagland | Hoagland and Associates | |
| Bob Mauro | Consultant
to NREL | (Illness) |
| Brad Smith | Shell Hydrogen | |
| Brian Walsh | US
Fuel Cell Council | |
| Bruce Kinzey | Pacific Northwest
Laboratory | |
| Carl Rivkin | National Fire Protection
Association (NFPA) | Y | | Carolyn
Elam | DOE Golden Field Office | |
| Cathy Gregoire-Padro | Los
Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) | Y |
| Christina Zhang-Tillman | California
Fuel Cell Partnership | |
| Christopher Moen | Sandia National
Laboratories/Livermore | |
| Dan Casey | ChevronTexaco | |
| Darren Meyers | International
Code Council (ICC) | Y |
| Debbie Angerman | Compressed Gas Association
(CGA) | (Attending ISO/TC58) |
| Doug Horne | Clean Vehicle Education
Foundation | |
| Gary Howard | A. V. Tchouvelev &
Associates, Inc. | |
| George Kervitsky | SENTECH | |
| George Thomas | Consultant
to Sandia National Laboratories | |
| Gerry Myers | SPRINT | |
| Greg Milewski | Shell
Oil Products | Y |
| Hank Seiff | Clean Vehicle Education
Foundation | Y/T |
| Holly Thomas | National Renewable
Energy Laboratory (NREL) | Y |
| Jeff Grant | Ballard Generation Systems | |
| Jesse Schneider | DaimlerChrysler | Y |
| Jim McGetrick | BP | |
| John Koehr | American
Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME) | |
| Juana Williams | NIST | (On
Business Travel) | | Julie
Cairns | CSA America | Y |
| Karen Hall | National
Hydrogen Association (NHA) | Y |
| Julie Willets | SPRINT | |
| Keith Hardy | Argonne
National Laboratory | |
| Kelvin Hecht | ANSI, IEC and Consultant
to NREL | Y/T |
| Ken Krastins | Plug Power | |
| Larry Johnson | SPRINT | |
| Larry Moulthrop | Proton
Energy Systems | |
| Laurie Florence | Underwriter Laboratories | |
| Mark Richards | Gas
Technology Institute | Y |
| Michael Steele | General Motors Advanced
Technology Vehicles | Y |
| Nha Nguyen | NHTSA/Office of International
Policy and Harmonization | Y |
| Patrick Serfass | National Hydrogen
Association (NHA) | Y |
| Pat Davis | USDOE/Hydrogen, Fuel Cell
and Infrastructure Technologies Program | |
| Paul Buehler | Plug Power, Inc. | Y |
| Prentiss Searles | American
Petroleum Institute (API) | |
| Robert Wichert | US Fuel Cell Council
(USFCC) | | | Rhoads
Stephenson | Motor Vehicle Fire Research Institute | Y |
| Roger Smith | Compressed
Gas Association (CGA) | |
| Ron Sims | Society of Automobile Engineers
(SAE) and Consultant to NREL | Y |
| Sondra Ullman | Plug Power | Y/T |
| Spencer Grieco | CSA
America | | | Steve
Turner | C&S Consultant | |
| Susan Townsend | General
Electric Global Research Center | |
| Terry Conrad | Concurrent Technologies
Corp. | | | Thad
Adams | Savannah River National Laboratory | |
| Tom Joseph | Air
Products and Chemicals | Y |
| Tony Androsky | US Fuel Cell Council
(USFCC) | | | Jim
Ohi | National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) | Y |
| Russ Hewett | National
Renewable Energy Laboratory | Y |
ATTACHMENT
III Participants in the March 2006 In-Person Meeting that are not Members
of the Coordiating Committee (Such Participants Were Invited to Become
members)
| NAME | ORGANIZATION |
| Eileen Schmura | Concurrent
Technologies Corporation | | Charlie
Meyers | Nuvera Fuel Cells |
| Ron Coiner | CSA America |
| Lesley Crowell | California
Air Resources Board | | Stephen
Woods | Honeywell for NASA WSTF | | Robert
Hay | TISEC, Inc. |
| David Zatko | Air Products | | Lonnie
O'Baker | Concurrent Technologies Corporation | | Art
Pontau | Sandia National Laboratories | | Barbara
Hennessey | DOT/National Highway Transportation Safety
Administration | | Wilbert
Lee | ChevronTexaco | | Anna
Stukas | Angstrom Power | | Elizabeth
Turnbull | SENTECH | | Justin
Ward | Toyota Technical Center | | Nate
Warner | Toyota Technical Center | | Spencer
Quong | Quong Associates | | Robert
Boyd | BOC Gases | | Rick
Rocheleau | University of Hawaii | | Doug
Wheeler | University of Hawaii | | Carmen
Mendez | Sandia National Laboratories | | Kelly
Keefe | Compressed Gas Association | | Chris
Carnahan | Compressed Gas Association | | Stephen
Weiner | Pacific Northwest Laboratory |
| Ned Stetson | Proteus Services Group |
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